[Pharo-users] In Pharo 7 - are the Browsers in any particular order in the new menu?
btc at openinworld.com
Thu Jun 21 22:36:25 EDT 2018
On 22 June 2018 at 10:25, Ben Coman <btc at openinworld.com> wrote:
>> > On 21 Jun 2018, at 22:42, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot at gmail.com>
>> > Le 21/06/2018 à 23:18, Tim Mackinnon a écrit :
>> >> Hi
>> > Hi,
> > - is the order of browsers specified for any particular reason?
>> >> I ask, because the 2 main one System and Playground should both be at
>> the top (in my opinion) but I’m wondering if its in some specific order?
>> > By top you mean at the root of the menu or at the top of the Tool
>> > If you mean at the root of the menu, then no for the menubar because it
>> > is a menubar and not a toolbar. But, it would be cool to get it back at
>> > the root of the WorldMenu but it need work to be able to define two
>> > different locations for menubar and world menu.
>> > If you mean at the top of the Tools submenu, then yes. The fact that
>> > Iceberg is before the playground is an error I think.
> On 22 June 2018 at 06:03, Tim Mackinnon <tim at testit.works> wrote:
>> Hi Cyril (nice work on the menu by the way) - I was thinking in the Tools
>> menu they should both be at the top. For the world menu - I think maybe the
>> consistency is better - and for the advanced user they can learnt he
>> keyboard shortcuts?
> I've been meaning to provide some feedback on this, but been giving myself
> time to adapt first.
> Generally I like the direction this is heading, but I find I'm really
> missing the World-Menu > Save item.
> When I'm playing with deep parts of the system where mistakes are likely
> to break the Image, I use this often.
> Actually its not awkward so much that its an extra level down, but that
> "Save" is not at the top of its submenu.
> Now as this arrangement is new, and I guess will become locked in when
> Pharo 7 is released
> (at the risk of bike shedding) can we experiment a bit with the
> I am finding that to open Browser and Playground I often accidentally go
> to "Pharo" item first,
> then correct myself to find them under "Tools".
> I'm not sure if I'm expecting Browser to be under the first menu, or
> expecting them under "Pharo".
> I think maybe the latter. For me the tools *are* Pharo.
> * Maybe rename the current "Pharo" to "File"? Its a common paradigm in
> many application that the first top-level item is "File" with
> save/quit/etc. And after, "saving" is the act of freezing the Image into a
> * Rename current "Tools" to "Pharo" as the second top-level item.
> Here is an experiment for anyone to try...
> WorldState-class >> pharoItemsOn: aBuilder
> (aBuilder item: #Pharo)
> + label: 'File';
> - icon: ((self iconNamed: #pharo) scaledToSize: 20 @ 20);
> + icon: ((self iconNamed: #smallOpen) scaledToSize: 15 @ 15);
> (aBuilder item: #Save)
> + order: 1
> (aBuilder item: #'Save as...')
> + order: 2
> (aBuilder item: #saveAndQuit)
> + order: 2 ; withSeparatorAfter
> (aBuilder item: #Quit)
> + order: 9
> AbstractTool-class >> menuCommandOn:
> + label: 'Pharo';
> + icon: ((self iconNamed: #pharo) scaledToSize: 20 @ 20);
> SettingsBrowser-class >> menuCommandOn:
> + order: 5
A slight variation on top of above...
WorldState-class >> pharoItemsOn: aBuilder
(aBuilder item: #Pharo)
- label: 'File';
+ label: 'Image';
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