[Pharo-users] Windows installation broken?

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray.luna at mutabit.com
Mon Jun 18 15:45:38 EDT 2018

Nothing, that's precisely my point! So we don't need to talk about balls
size, with the implicit gender assumptions about courage and the "Macho
Programmer" way of argumentation, that is toxic in *other* communities
for minorities (non white, non cisgender, non male) which usually
repeals them for participation.

So, yes, lets focus on a better installing Pharo experience on Windows.



On 18/06/18 13:39, Travis Ayres wrote:
> What does not talking like an asshole have to do with being white and
> male?
> ...seriously?
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 11:31 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
> <offray.luna at mutabit.com <mailto:offray.luna at mutabit.com>> wrote:
>     On 18/06/18 09:47, Herbert Vojčík wrote:
>>>>     Do you have enough balls to call out Steph for his obviously
>>>>     wrong decision to push Launcher down the users' throats and
>>>>     make him revert to working installers / zips? Cause AFAICT
>>>>     there's the bottleneck atm.
>>>     First, it was MY decision.
>>     My apologies to blaming Steph.
>>>     I’m pushing launcher as the default download for Pharo since
>>>     year now.
>>>     Do I am happy with it not working on windows right now? Of
>>>     course not. But pushing it also in windows has already forced us
>>>     to fix some bugs there and a new version of the launcher (and a
>>>     better Pharo on windows) and at the result will be good.
>>>     I was going to suspend the launcher as the default download
>>>     until a better version arrived, but I’ve been told that will
>>>     happen this week, so I will wait.
>>>     Second, we have a lot of bottlenecks, but is true this is
>>>     important.
>>>     Third, please restrain your self to talk like that in the
>>>     future. Is rude and unnecessary.
>>     I won't. Sometimes it seems this kind of talk is needed. Windows
>>     launcher was not working for so long but it is still pushed as
>>     the default download option, because "higher goals" I presume. If
>>     this kind of talk helps to get rid of it until working (or make
>>     it finally actually work), it is anything but unnecessary.
>     I don't see how this "Macho Programmer Culture" mixing genitalia
>     size with community behavior and admin choices is necessary. But I
>     see why, for sure, non-(white)-males feel so unwelcome in
>     developers communities when some members feels such "necessity" of
>     addressing others with such language and when pointed to that,
>     just reinforce their choices.
>     Best,
>     Offray

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