[Pharo-users] Windows installation broken?

Travis Ayres trayres at gmail.com
Mon Jun 18 14:39:09 EDT 2018

What does not talking like an asshole have to do with being white and male?


On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 11:31 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.luna at mutabit.com> wrote:

> On 18/06/18 09:47, Herbert Vojčík wrote:
> Do you have enough balls to call out Steph for his obviously wrong
> decision to push Launcher down the users' throats and make him revert to
> working installers / zips? Cause AFAICT there's the bottleneck atm.
> First, it was MY decision.
> My apologies to blaming Steph.
> I’m pushing launcher as the default download for Pharo since year now.
> Do I am happy with it not working on windows right now? Of course not. But
> pushing it also in windows has already forced us to fix some bugs there and
> a new version of the launcher (and a better Pharo on windows) and at the
> result will be good.
> I was going to suspend the launcher as the default download until a better
> version arrived, but I’ve been told that will happen this week, so I will
> wait.
> Second, we have a lot of bottlenecks, but is true this is important.
> Third, please restrain your self to talk like that in the future. Is rude
> and unnecessary.
> I won't. Sometimes it seems this kind of talk is needed. Windows launcher
> was not working for so long but it is still pushed as the default download
> option, because "higher goals" I presume. If this kind of talk helps to get
> rid of it until working (or make it finally actually work), it is anything
> but unnecessary.
> I don't see how this "Macho Programmer Culture" mixing genitalia size with
> community behavior and admin choices is necessary. But I see why, for sure,
> non-(white)-males feel so unwelcome in developers communities when some
> members feels such "necessity" of addressing others with such language and
> when pointed to that, just reinforce their choices.
> Best,
> Offray
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