[Pharo-users] more on "can't get keyboard shortcuts to work on Mac"

Tim Mackinnon tim at testit.works
Thu Jun 7 08:10:56 EDT 2018


Yes they all work for me too - so we ‘re a bit confused by what your reporting Greg, as they should all work on a Mac.

I’m sure we can help you get to the bottom of it.

Tim

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Jun 2018, at 06:39, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> oh and a typo.  Which should have been:
> 
> not Cmd-t then Cmd-c
> 
> but 
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> Cmd-t-c
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> Paul DeBruicker wrote
>> Oh.  Its not an individual 
>> 
>> Cmd-t then Cmd-t
>> 
>> Its Cmd-t-c
>> 
>> So with a browser open on the instance side of a class press and hold the
>> Cmd key, then hit t then hit c
>> 
>> At least it works on my machine™ 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> GreggInCA wrote
>>> Tom, thanks for the detailed instructions. They help, but many of the
>>> shortcuts listed in Help (Help window > Pharo Environment Help > Keyboard
>>> Shortcuts > Browser Shortcuts) don't work. 
>>> 
>>> cmd-b, cmd-m works as you said, but anything that begins with Meta + f
>>> (i.e., cmd-f) brings up a Find and Replace dialog, just as you would
>>> expect
>>> any Mac application to provide (i.e., cmd-f lets you find things). Some
>>> shortcuts do work, while others do not.
>>> 
>>> Other examples of things not working: With a system browser active and a
>>> class selected, Meta + t, Meta + c does *not* "show class side" (which is
>>> what the Browser Shortcuts window says it should do).
>>> 
>>> I'm sure this is Mac-specific, with built-in Mac behavior having
>>> precedence
>>> over any application-defined behaviors. As I said in my earliest post,
>>> I've
>>> looked everywhere in the Mac environment for ways to turn this Mac
>>> behavior
>>> off, with no success.
>>> 
>>> Hey, I can live without keyboard shortcuts, but I thought I'd put some
>>> energy into seeing if it's possible to get them to work.
>>> 
>>> If no one running Pharo 6.1 on a Mac can tell anything that might help,
>>> I'll
>>> just give it up and use menus. Everybody, thanks for your help!
>>> 
>>> === original post ===
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Mackinnon wrote
>>>> Hi Greg - meta is the Cmd key on a Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> So you type cmd-shift-f for reformat code in a method, cmd-s to save.
>>>> 
>>>> There are some chorded keys - eg cmd-b cmd-m (keep holding the cmd then
>>>> press b followed by m) to browse implementers of the selected method. 
>>>> 
>>>> On Linux the meta key is Ctrl (just an FYI)
>>>> 
>>>> While discussing keystrokes - a less obvious but very useful one is
>>>> shift-enter to get the spotter (sort of like the Mac’s spotlight but for
>>>> code)
>>>> 
>>>> All of this is in the help documentation - Help | Help Browser | Pharo
>>>> Environment Help.
>>>> 
>>>> But happy to get you started, as it’s frustrating if the basics aren’t
>>>> working for you.
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 Jun 2018, at 04:50, Gregg Williams <
>>> 
>>>> gregg13@
>>> 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim and Ben,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your help. Sorry for not being clear. When I said "I just
>>>>> can't get keyboard shortcuts to work on Mac," what I should have said
>>>>> is
>>>>> "I just can't get Pharo-specific shortcuts to work on the Macintosh
>>>>> implementation of Pharo" (6.1 is what I'm using BTW).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe I should have said "keymap shortcuts"? I'm talking about things
>>>>> like Meta+Shift+f for 'find class', and Meta+x, Meta+m for 'remove
>>>>> method'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've looked for what the definition of Meta is for Mac OS. All I can
>>>>> find
>>>>> is meta-click is Shift+Option+click, but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>> Option + 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> <many keys>
>>>> gives "special characters" like ∂, ß, and œ.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope that now you can simply say, "Oh, of course, what you need to do
>>>>> is…". Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just can't get keyboard shortcuts to work on Mac. I?ve tried a lot
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> stuff, more than I can list here. Here are some things I?ve tried:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * searching the Pharo by Example book
>>>>>> * turning off all Mac keyboard-macro programs
>>>>>> * switching from extended to standard US keyboard
>>>>>> * looking at options in System Preferences > Keyboard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you?re on the Mac, do you have this problem? If so, what?s your
>>>>>> solution? Thanks!
>>>>>> 
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