[Pharo-users] One comment to new Pharo5 debugger
christophe.demarey at inria.fr
Thu May 26 03:37:52 EDT 2016
this point was also « discussed » (no answer) here: http://forum.world.st/gtdebugger-debug-actions-buttons-td4874316.html <http://forum.world.st/gtdebugger-debug-actions-buttons-td4874316.html>
Yes, the new buttons are counter-productive and there is even no setting to have them usable …
You can still with to the SpecDebugger through settings
> Le 25 mai 2016 à 22:49, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak at gmail.com> a écrit :
> yes, this question was raised before, but there are some disagreements over how it should be, so it may take some time http://forum.world.st/GTDebugger-shortcuts-usability-td4890316.html <http://forum.world.st/GTDebugger-shortcuts-usability-td4890316.html>
> You can also use a startup script to reassign them, such as this one. https://github.com/peteruhnak/pharo-scripts/blob/master/config/5.0/uniformDebugger.st <https://github.com/peteruhnak/pharo-scripts/blob/master/config/5.0/uniformDebugger.st>
> But a startup script is a temporary solution.
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Sabine Manaa <manaa.sabine at gmail.com <mailto:manaa.sabine at gmail.com>> wrote:
> today I moved to Pharo5. It is great to get feedback and solutions for
> problems so quickly. It is a pleasure to work with Pharo and to have the
> community. I am grateful for having this.
> I have one comment. I don't want to complain, I can use it but I was
> wondering about the new position and size of the debugger buttons.
> There is a longer distance now from code text pane to the buttons - I see
> this as disadvantage to earlier versions of Pharo from the user experience.
> The buttons are a lot of smaller - same disadvantage - both if you use the
> Ok, after seeing that, I thought "Sabine, you should use keyboard shortcuts
> here, too" (I use much of them but interesting - til now not in the
> Then I saw the shortcuts for
> Proceed cmd+r
> Restart cmd-shift-a
> Into cmd-e
> over cmd-shift-o
> through cmd-shift-t
> especially into, over and through have so different key combinations, two
> with shift, one without shift. When I debug, I often use for example
> into-into-over-over-over-throuhg-through--into-into etc...and with the
> combinations cmd-e and cmd-shit-e, it is more "finger-work". It would be
> better to have all those shortcuts with or all shortcuts without shift. And
> the letters not so far away at the keyboard (e-o-t)
> This is only my opinion and my first impression after one day with Pharo5. I
> am sure, after a few days, I forgot that this was uncomfortable because I
> have the shortcuts coming automatically into my fingers.
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