[Pharo-users] Creation form from PNG file very slow on Pharo 4 and 5

Dimitris Chloupis kilon.alios at gmail.com
Sat Jan 16 15:36:43 EST 2016


how the bug report is bad ?

No the workarounds were not helpful because I was already aware of them :)

I appreciate people trying to help as always but yes it was upsetting to me
, to be told that my bug report is bad, that loading 60 tiny images in 1
second is acceptable for a GUI and that opening 60 files is also near the
limitation of my hardware. Because I find every one of them , very far from
the truth and not very helpful.

But I may have overacted also in my part so I apologize. All is good life
goes on :)

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 9:51 PM Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2016-01-16 15:40 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios at gmail.com>:
>
>> disk, 1TB. why it matters ? from my profile its clear that its not the
>> primitive that is the problem but how Pharo processes pngs.
>>
>> I happen to work with a lot of big data both in 3d graphics, a blender
>> file can easily reach 250 mb and it opens under a second and audio files ,
>> plus instrument that uses alot of audio files as samples of several gbs
>> giving again instanenous loading. I am not talking here 60 files, I am
>> talking thousands of files.
>>
>> I report a sever limitation and I have been told
>>
>> a) I have not done enough to isolate the problem when I post clear
>> profiling reports and the code that is responsible for it
>>
>
> The bug report was indeed bad.
>
>
>> b) why I make a fuss about it since there are work arounds
>>
>
> I did not see the "why make a fuss about". And the work arounds are
> actually helpful, no?
>
>
>> c) that its a hardware limitation when the hardware is able to perform
>> light years ahead of what pharo is currently doing
>>
>> Sorry but this kind of attitude is really bad, when someone reports a bug
>> I find it a lot better to tell him that you don't care or not reply at all
>> and ignore him than just find excuses for the bug or limitation.
>>
>
> You reported a problem with morphics image loading and some people
> immediately step in to help you analyse your code. More pepole helped by
> giving some tipps and possible workaounds.
> What is wrong with this. I don't see a bad attitude.
>
>
>>
>> I see it every single time I complain about a problem there is a few
>> people who are logical about this like Ben , Esteban etc and then some
>> other that in complete denial zone and easily offended by the truth.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM Stephan Eggermont <stephan at stack.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16-01-16 14:48, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>> > sorry but thats plain horrible performance wise and those images are
>>> > needed as soon as the gui is opened. So there can be no lazy loading
>>> for
>>> > them. The total size for all the 60 images is 530kbs . What would
>>> happen
>>> > if I did some serious animations of 10s of mbs , I will have to go to
>>> > buy a coffee to get my GUI opened :D
>>>
>>> Is that on a disk or an SSD? You won't be able to get much more than 60
>>> files opened/s on a disk.
>>>
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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