[Pharo-users] Lawsuit Tracker app

Dimitris Chloupis kilon.alios at gmail.com
Sun Jan 3 04:54:19 EST 2016


there is no Pharo wiki too, but we have plenty of books and documentation
that can be found here

https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:12 AM John Pfersich <jpfersich at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Jan 2, 2016, at 23:57, Saša Janiška <gour at atmarama.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sub, 2016-01-02 at 23:27 +0000, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
> >>
> >> there is an an SQlite wrapper for pharo
> >
> > I know about it.
> >
> > However it would be nice to have some categorized catalog of the
> > packages available for Pharo?
> >
>
> +1
> I find that I just browse the Configuration Browser to see what's out
> there and then google the name to see if I can find any documentation.
>
> And it would be nice to have a wiki like Squeak's.
>
> >> the screenshot you shared as Tudor said can be accomplished via
> >> Roassal and Morphic.
> >
> > Now, I'm really a bit puzzled about Roassal' capabilities. :-)
> >
> >> Personally I find the whole performance question kinda irrelevant
> >> because if you really want to squeeze the most performance code those
> >> parts in C and call them from Pharo via its FFI. Not even Julia will
> >> able to outperform that since itself relies on C code for performance
> >> and its quite restrictive how you use its dynamic types to achieve
> >> high performance.
> >
> > Well, the point is that e.g. I know people who tried to do similar apps
> > in Python and it was too slow, they abandoned it and went to C++.
> >
> > That's the reason why I was primarily exploring statically-compiled
> > languages. Julia *might* be interesting since it is higher-level
> > language with fantastic, close to C performance when one helps compiler
> > by annotating data types.
> >
> > In short, I want to avoid fiddling with low-level languages, otherwise
> > it would be simple to just use C/GTK or C++/Qt. (Java could probably
> > also do the job, but I simply do not like it.)
> >
> > For the most critical part of the application, I anyway plan to use 3rd
> > party C lib which does calculate planetary ephemeris, but for the custom
> > libs using it, I want to use higher-level and type-safer language.
> >
> >> In any case there are always 3 rules, profile, profile and profile.
> >> When it comes to performance assume nothing. In the vast majority of
> >> cases Pharo JIT VM should be more than enough.
> >
> > Let me see...
> >
> >> And if all you want to do is a business app I dont even know why you
> >> worry about performance. Business apps they are very low demand on
> >> performance.
> >
> > When I say 'business' app, it is most in the sense of typical 'desktop
> > outlook', while the app itself is falling more into 'science' app, but
> > it depends how one sees astronomy/astrology. :-)
> >
> >> Pharo libraries dont get irrelevant because the language is so simple
> >> it barely changes and the changes usually dont brake compatibility.
> >
> > Pharo's simplicity of the language is huge 'pro'. ;)
> >
> >> Pharo can do REPL via the playground, the whole deal is that is a lot
> >> more than that.
> >
> > Right, it's just that Julia provides more 'traditional' dev work-flow,
> > while with Pharo one has to unwrap one's head a bit. :-)
> >
> >> GUI wise you can do some pretty awesome stuff with morphic.
> >
> > That I still have to learn...
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Gour
> >
> > --
> > A person is said to be elevated in yoga when, having renounced
> > all material desires, he neither acts for sense gratification
> > nor engages in fruitive activities.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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