[Pharo-users] Thanks for Pharo
adam at 234.cz
Sat Oct 17 13:57:59 EDT 2015
I was about to write something similar. I experienced strange bahavior of
Playground window under Pharo 4, and before reporting it I try it under Pharo
5. It was fixed. This little thing remembers me, it is not obvius to have such
a great project. So many thanks to everyone no only for this fix, but also for
whole positive atmosphere around Pharo.
Dne Pá 16. října 2015 17:14:54, Jimmie Houchin napsal(a):
> Sometimes conversations revolve around perceived deficiencies in Pharo.
> What Pharo is missing. Or what Pharo doesn't do as well as my previous
> language, my favorite language, my other language, etc... These
> conversations are necessary to understand where Pharo is and to provide
> understanding on where Pharo needs some work.
> However, not enough gets said sometimes for all the goodness Pharo
> already provides and thanks to all of those who have contributed over
> the years to Smalltalk/Pharo.
> I know sometimes we get stuck in the minutiae and lose the big picture.
> I just want to say thanks to all that have contributed to Pharo in big
> and small way. Thank you.
> A special thanks to Stef, Marcus and company who have been working hard
> on this all the way back when it was still Squeak. Who had a vision for
> a clean, empowering, business ready, vision fulfilling Smalltalk
> inspired tool we call Pharo. Thanks.
> And a thanks to Eliot and all who contribute on the VM side of things.
> Enabling us to have a nicely performing and stable vm to run the Pharo
> My apologies for not naming everyone who deserves thanks. I intend no
> offense to anyone not named, but also deserving. Your names are included
> in all the contributor documentation. Thanks.
> And while I am being thankful, which is a good habit for all of us to be
> in. Being thankful not only improves the spirits of those being thanked.
> But those of us who are grateful are the biggest beneficiaries.
> I want to take time to appreciate some things in Pharo that make us
> appreciate having a tool like Pharo and which distinguishes itself from
> other languages and environments. I think these things either
> distinguish themselves either in the relative uniqueness or in quality
> of their implementation. They are not necessarily distinguishing from
> other Smalltalks but from other non-Smalltalk languages.
> Superior persistent live object environment.
> This is the game changer and affects and enables all other benefits.
> """I'm not complaining. I know that there is a good chance that we break
> the system when improving it. I have no problem with that and I prefer a
> living system with some bugs
> for a while than a dead system with no bug""" Stef - Sept. 7, 2015
> IDE, debugging and refactoring, all live, all the time.
> Because of the truly persistent live environment, there is no concept of
> shutdown, restart. We only know hibernate and resume. This is to use OS
> terms. For me this is an amazing boost to productivity. I can at any
> time save my image. Even close my saved image and resume exactly where I
> stopped. At any time, on any supported OS, on any machine. Powerful.
> There truly is no edit, compile, run cycle similar to other languages,
> even dynamically typed languages with REPLs.
> If I am not in Pharo, even if that language has an amazing notebook or
> repl available. It is nothing like coding in the live environment. The
> separation of editor and the compiler and/or application or VM makes
> development not as smooth and fluid. Even if I can enter and execute
> code in a notebook or repl to explore and learn in a version of a live
> environment. I still at some point have to leave my editing environment
> and write, edit and save my source code. And yes there are languages,
> editors, IDEs and tools that attempt to close the gap. But no, there
> still is a significant gap. The edited source code is the only thing
> that persists. Everything that gets executed in the repl or notebook is
> transient and will go away.
> MIT, equivalent or better licensed ecosystem.
> For me these are game changers. They set a standard by which I view any
> other programming experience. Thusly all other programming experience
> falls far short.
> Whenever I (we) experience a present weakness in Pharo. Remember the above.
> Not only does Pharo have these distinguishing factors. I do not know of
> any language or environment which even has a culture or worldview of
> programming which seeks to bring these features to their favored
> language or tools.
> Every time I have to restart my computer I think, Smalltalk solved this
> decades ago. Ugh!!!
> Where is my Pharo machine. :)
> If you have any Pharo distinctives that you appreciate and would like to
> share. Reply and let us know.
> What I mean by distinctive is something that Pharo (or Smalltalk) has
> that is either not in other languages or is in general significantly
> inferior. Especially those that other languages have no vision to ever
> have. It just isn't a part of who they are.
> If we keep these things before us as we work through the tedious work of
> cleaning the image, repairing fail attempts at various things. Or
> anything that may be a frustration for the moment, but is temporary.
> Remember what we gain and are blessed with having, that we would lose
> any where else. Or at a minimum have a far inferior substitute. And look
> forward to what we will have as these things become complete. The future
> is ours. Let's enjoy the journey.
> Just some thoughts in my head I wanted to let out.
> This is reminder to me. If any of you are blessed and inspired, that is
> a plus.
> Thanks and Shalom.
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