[Pharo-users] Exploring Pier

Tudor Girba tudor at tudorgirba.com
Sun Oct 11 16:49:24 EDT 2015


On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:27 PM, stepharo <stepharo at free.fr> wrote:

>
> In Pharo I have Pharo/Smalltalk. Even a simple user can often contribute
>> in simple ways. Even as a simple user of a Pharo tool. I can submit issues,
>> fix simple issues, improve method or class comments, etc. As I learn the
>> Pharo tools and ecosystem I continually improve my ability to take care of
>> myself and also contribute to the community. I think Pharo is the most user
>> empowering environment I have found. Sure I can find lots and lots of other
>> quality tools in other languages. But each is their own island. And
>> depending on how broadly I spread the net. Different languages, different
>> cultures, different licenses, all independent of each other.
>>
>> I much prefer the Pharo ecosystem and culture. It is home.
>> I know others who like the other tools, and multiplicity of choice. And
>> they feel comfortable there.
>>
>> Choice is nice. Pharo is mine.
>>
> :)


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>> Thanks again for suggestions and for a view on how others approach
>> problems and their solutions. That is always available as inspiration even
>> within Pharo. I take a look at your stuff.
>>
>> Jimmie
>>
>>
>> On 09/28/2015 09:03 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jimmie,
>>>
>>> Some or your searches/needs seem similar to mine. So I will share some
>>> of the stuff I'm using or considering, which is not Pharo/Smalltalk related
>>> and how I plan to connect it with Pharo.
>>>
>>> On markup language and documentation I'm using pandoc[1], which covers a
>>> wide variety of formats (including Html and LaTeX, like Pillar) and works
>>> on Windows, Gnu/Linux and Mac with a pretty portable installation. I use
>>> Zotero[2] integration vía BibTeX and Citezen[3] using Grafoscopio[4], a
>>> custom made Pharo interactive documentation system I'm building to learn
>>> smalltalk. On the website generation, I was a user/promoter of web2py[5]
>>> for several year, but recently I'm migrating towards static site genetators
>>> like Nikola[6] and Grav[7] because I don't need any much else for my web
>>> presence.
>>>
>>> [1] http://pandoc.org/
>>> [2] https://www.zotero.org/
>>> [3]
>>> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/citezen-EsugAwards2009.pdf
>>> [4] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Offray/Grafoscopio
>>> [5] http://web2py.com/
>>> [6] https://getnikola.com/
>>> [7] http://getgrav.org/
>>>
>>> My idea is to build an interface from Grafoscopio to this non-pharo
>>> technologies like static web site generators, so you can use the
>>> interactivity of Pharo/Smalltalk, without having to reinvent the wheel all
>>> the time (at least for wheels yo don't care about). I'm trying to find the
>>> knowledge/time to put this ideas into practice. Maybe you can consider some
>>> of these in your initial overview of the problem and the solutions.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Offray
>>>
>>> On 22/09/15 11:30, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know there are options to Pier. To a certain extent part of the
>>>> purpose of my email was to explore whether or not Pier is a viable option
>>>> and if it has community support that I am not easily seeing.
>>>>
>>>> I want to stick with reasonably well supported options.
>>>>
>>>> I thought the cms and blog parts of Pier looked interesting. This is
>>>> all personal and not for business or public.
>>>>
>>>> I definitely want to learn Pillar as it is required if at some point I
>>>> want to contribute to any of the documentation. And it looks like a pretty
>>>> powerful tool.
>>>>
>>>> I do not have any clearly defined goals which make Pier a requirement.
>>>> The blog and cms like features are possibly reasonably implementable in the
>>>> more currently supported options. And those are simply things I am
>>>> exploring not requiring.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that Doru possibly uses it on the
>>>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog site.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Jimmie
>>>>
>>>> On 09/22/2015 02:38 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jimmie Houchin <jlhouchin at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in learning to use Pier. I browsed the mailing list to
>>>>>> learn about current status and documentation. It seems to be pretty
>>>>>> quiet on the mailing lists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There seems to be some activity on Smalltalkhub on Pier3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pillar, the document model and parser of Pier is alive. I need help but
>>>>> the project is definitely not dead as we use it for all books we are
>>>>> writing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rest of Pier, mainly the web interface, looks rather dead for me as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are you interested in Pier? We might help you find other projects
>>>>> that could suit your needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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