[Pharo-users] Exploring Pier

stepharo stepharo at free.fr
Mon Oct 5 16:27:16 EDT 2015


> In Pharo I have Pharo/Smalltalk. Even a simple user can often 
> contribute in simple ways. Even as a simple user of a Pharo tool. I 
> can submit issues, fix simple issues, improve method or class 
> comments, etc. As I learn the Pharo tools and ecosystem I continually 
> improve my ability to take care of myself and also contribute to the 
> community. I think Pharo is the most user empowering environment I 
> have found. Sure I can find lots and lots of other quality tools in 
> other languages. But each is their own island. And depending on how 
> broadly I spread the net. Different languages, different cultures, 
> different licenses, all independent of each other.
>
> I much prefer the Pharo ecosystem and culture. It is home.
> I know others who like the other tools, and multiplicity of choice. 
> And they feel comfortable there.
>
> Choice is nice. Pharo is mine.
:)

>
> Thanks again for suggestions and for a view on how others approach 
> problems and their solutions. That is always available as inspiration 
> even within Pharo. I take a look at your stuff.
>
> Jimmie
>
>
> On 09/28/2015 09:03 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
>> Hi Jimmie,
>>
>> Some or your searches/needs seem similar to mine. So I will share 
>> some of the stuff I'm using or considering, which is not 
>> Pharo/Smalltalk related and how I plan to connect it with Pharo.
>>
>> On markup language and documentation I'm using pandoc[1], which 
>> covers a wide variety of formats (including Html and LaTeX, like 
>> Pillar) and works on Windows, Gnu/Linux and Mac with a pretty 
>> portable installation. I use Zotero[2] integration vía BibTeX and 
>> Citezen[3] using Grafoscopio[4], a custom made Pharo interactive 
>> documentation system I'm building to learn smalltalk. On the website 
>> generation, I was a user/promoter of web2py[5] for several year, but 
>> recently I'm migrating towards static site genetators like Nikola[6] 
>> and Grav[7] because I don't need any much else for my web presence.
>>
>> [1] http://pandoc.org/
>> [2] https://www.zotero.org/
>> [3] 
>> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/citezen-EsugAwards2009.pdf
>> [4] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Offray/Grafoscopio
>> [5] http://web2py.com/
>> [6] https://getnikola.com/
>> [7] http://getgrav.org/
>>
>> My idea is to build an interface from Grafoscopio to this non-pharo 
>> technologies like static web site generators, so you can use the 
>> interactivity of Pharo/Smalltalk, without having to reinvent the 
>> wheel all the time (at least for wheels yo don't care about). I'm 
>> trying to find the knowledge/time to put this ideas into practice. 
>> Maybe you can consider some of these in your initial overview of the 
>> problem and the solutions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>> On 22/09/15 11:30, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
>>> I know there are options to Pier. To a certain extent part of the 
>>> purpose of my email was to explore whether or not Pier is a viable 
>>> option and if it has community support that I am not easily seeing.
>>>
>>> I want to stick with reasonably well supported options.
>>>
>>> I thought the cms and blog parts of Pier looked interesting. This is 
>>> all personal and not for business or public.
>>>
>>> I definitely want to learn Pillar as it is required if at some point 
>>> I want to contribute to any of the documentation. And it looks like 
>>> a pretty powerful tool.
>>>
>>> I do not have any clearly defined goals which make Pier a 
>>> requirement. The blog and cms like features are possibly reasonably 
>>> implementable in the more currently supported options. And those are 
>>> simply things I am exploring not requiring.
>>>
>>> It seems that Doru possibly uses it on the 
>>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog site.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jimmie
>>>
>>> On 09/22/2015 02:38 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Jimmie Houchin <jlhouchin at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in learning to use Pier. I browsed the mailing 
>>>>> list to
>>>>> learn about current status and documentation. It seems to be pretty
>>>>> quiet on the mailing lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> There seems to be some activity on Smalltalkhub on Pier3.
>>>>
>>>> Pillar, the document model and parser of Pier is alive. I need help 
>>>> but
>>>> the project is definitely not dead as we use it for all books we are
>>>> writing.
>>>>
>>>> The rest of Pier, mainly the web interface, looks rather dead for 
>>>> me as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Why are you interested in Pier? We might help you find other projects
>>>> that could suit your needs.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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