[Pharo-users] I Can Read C++ and Java But I Can't Read Smalltalk

Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk at me.com
Sun Mar 30 15:24:44 EDT 2014


For me Smalltalk and Lisp are the easiest languages. In smalltalk everything is an object and in lisp everything is a list. And in other languages you have to learn 100500 language constructs and hacks.

Uko

On 30 Mar 2014, at 20:52, kilon alios <kilon.alios at gmail.com> wrote:

> Smalltalk is the easiest language I have learned so far. Python coming second and quite close. 
> 
> I also find Squeak by Example and Pharo by Example very good introductory guides. Smalltalk By Example is even better if you want to know more about the language. 
> 
> Smalltalk is similar to Lisp in the sense that it follows its own path and it takes some time to escape the C syntax. But overall Smalltalk and Lisp are excellent choices for beginner coders. 
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> The article you linked contains those peculiarities but those things will become apparent to anyone following Pharo by Example.  
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> And I dont think you will find many people arguing that C++ , Java are more readable than Smalltalk and Lisp. Sure to people that are not that experienced could be. But even in that case, I dont quite believe it.
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> Overall however learning languages is not a big deal, its learning libraries that can become a real torture. For example I hated C++ because of MFC and I strongly disliked Java because of Swing. Now that I am learning Javascript , I dislike it because of DOM , Jquery etc . Also Its easy to find good documentation for languages much more difficult for libraries. 
> 
> So I am not buying that Smalltalk is anything else than very easy to learn. Other than that like any language out there it takes some time to get used to some things. 
> 
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> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Ben Coman <btc at openinworld.com> wrote:
> I came across this article a few days ago.  Thought it might be of interest to some.
> http://www.eli.sdsu.edu/courses/spring01/cs635/readingSmalltalk.pdf
> 
> 

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