[Pharo-dev] What the state of unifying Beacon with SystemLogger?

Tudor Girba tudor at tudorgirba.com
Thu Apr 21 09:45:56 EDT 2016


Hi,

> On Apr 20, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> Thank's for answers.
> 
> 2016-04-20 10:53 GMT+02:00 Norbert Hartl <norbert at hartl.name>:
> Agreed. As I said above. If you take to point of view from legacy logging tool Beacon is not a big help. But the ideas in it are good and should be integrated somewhere. If you are talking about legacy tooling it might ok to use the terms logging as well, no? I personally like the work Beacon but in my opinion it is  wrong for this purpose. A beacon sends a uniform signal in order to be discovered. The Beacon code sends signals to a beacon. And I can register at the beacon in which signals I'm interested in. Feels wrong to me.
> 
> Your words are reasonable. Interesting what Tudor think about it?

Please take a look at the reply I sent to Norbert’s email for explanations and further questions.


> There are few things which I not like in SystemLogger (which not means that everything is good with Beacon):
> 	• name Log to represent records of the underlying "physical log". 
> IMHO Log means exactly end logging backend like text file, syslog or external database. Log is the place where we can explore (read) what was happen. 
> And now these backends are represented by subclasses of Logger: StdoutStreamLogger, SysLogSender. I would call them StdoutLog, SysLog.
> But with such change we need to call log entry differently. It can be LogRecord or LogEntry. I not understand what was the problem with such names? (there was some explanation why Log was chosen for this)
> 	• name SystemLogger for collection based log. 
> SystemLogger makes me think that it is singleton which is used by system and I should not use it for my own application. 
> I would call it like ObjectLog or NativeLog (following my first sentence about Log).
> Also it is intercepted with SysLog name and I guess that's why it was called SysLogSender and not SysLogLogger.
> 	• name LogDispatcher. 
> Here same problem as Log. What means physical logs dispatching? I know it is introduced around Log as log entry. But it is not intuitive for me (same as Log).
> In context of Log as real log (FileLog, SysLog) I would call this dispatcher as Logger with same responsibility to register new events in all registered logs. 
> 	• announcements LogAdded and LogRemoved in the core.
> Why any Logger should announce every log entry? 
> I think we not need special LoggerUI app. We can just inspect SystemLogger instance to look at all recorded objects. And in perspective of my suggestions it will mean that we just explore particular ObjectLog. And we can extend GTInspector for this.
> 

Take a look at Beacon. The GTInspector extensions are provided out of the box.

Cheers,
Tudor

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