[Pharo-dev] 13102

GOUBIER Thierry thierry.goubier at cea.fr
Wed Apr 16 06:13:34 EDT 2014

Ok, my position:

1) local shortcut should not override global shortcuts, but see 2)

2) global shortcuts should be as restricted as they are in a normal desktop (see your OS HIG documentation for that)
- Suggestion: create a namespace with a prefix for application triggering global shortcuts, where each app can add his (x ctrl + w for opening a Workspace, x ctrl + etc...)

4) Warn of overlapping when adding shortcuts.

3) Remove that set :)


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Bump :)

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito at gmail.com<mailto:guillermopolito at gmail.com>> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito at gmail.com<mailto:guillermopolito at gmail.com>> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito at gmail.com<mailto:guillermopolito at gmail.com>> wrote:

Sorry for the late response... I'm covered with stuff to do lately.

To my understanding we are mixing these different issues:

1) whether the global shortcuts should have or not priority over local shortcuts. To my understanding that's what operating systems do. You cannot override alt+tab and if you intend, it will just not work. If any application can override alt+tab, the system will feel inconsistent for the users. So global shortcuts have priority with this intend: Not let the tools mess with what Pharo has decided the global shortcuts should be.

So, any points against or in favor to this?

2) which are the actions that should be available globally though a shortcut. This deserves for sure a different discussion than 1). Should we put all tools in there? The more we put, the more difficult is to put shortcuts locally in tools. In any case I think this is orthogonal to 1).

3) are the shortcuts we chose for the tools the right ones? I think the "prefixed" shortcuts chosen for the tools were thought as a kind of namespace for the shortcuts. Again, I find this orthogonal to 1).

Do we open a new thread to discuss this? I think it's important to discuss what is available globally through a shortcut and what's not, and what such shortcuts should be. The only thing I need is:

- Spotlight
- Finder?
- Workspace?
- The main menu?

The browser I don't really need it because I use spotlight. The finder can cover almost all stuff I search normally trough a workspace :).

Even if this is not for Pharo3, it's important for Pharo4.

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