[Pharo-dev] [Inspiration] Toward a better programming

Sven Van Caekenberghe sven at stfx.eu
Wed Apr 2 06:45:58 EDT 2014


Yes, having grand, ambitious goals is important. It is all to easy to get lost and demotivated in the day to day details, but on the other hand, that work must be done.

I just read the piece about their design process and reviews. It is indeed amazing that they can have such a complex system with just one global namespace (at least for the command language and top level interface). Of course, getting there is a lot of work.

On 02 Apr 2014, at 08:12, Tudor Girba <tudor at tudorgirba.com> wrote:

> Indeed, I read this article several times over the last couple of days. This work is impressive particularly when combined with the cloud part.
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> The language itself is less interesting for me, but what makes it stand out is that it has a coherent and robust philosophy behind and phenomenal goals to reach. In Pharo, we have the luxury of building on top of coherent and robust philosophy (even if different from the Wolfram one) and we should try as much as possible to keep our eyes on phenomenal goals that seem unreachable.
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> Another thing I like in Wolfram's work is attention to details:
> http://blog.wolfram.com/2008/01/10/ten-thousand-hours-of-design-reviews/
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> Details are crucial, and all the effort in Pharo around naming and redesigning what already exists is incredibly important. But, it is precisely at the moment when we are knee-deep in details that is crucial to keep our eyes on the phenomenal long term goals.
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> There is so much to build. Let's be bold.
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> Doru
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> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven at stfx.eu> wrote:
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> On 31 Mar 2014, at 06:21, S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > How about impact of this:
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> > http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2014/03/injecting-computation-everywhere-a-sxsw-update/
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> > I would agree it is quite complex for any beginner, but utility of a programming language on these lines seems cut out for the future..
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> Wow, this is really powerful stuff, a long read, but well worth it. By recombining and reusing all their technology they seem to be able to move into more and more territory.
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> It is closed source and (very) expensive, and I don't like the syntax, but we sure can get good ideas from them.
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> Thanks for sharing the link.
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> Sven
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