[Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] #deepCollect:

dimitris chloupis thekilon at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Dec 21 04:04:47 EST 2013


στειλε μου την πάλι στο kilon.alios at gmail.com γιατί εδώ μπαίνω πλέον σπάνια και για κάποιο λόγο δεν μου κατεβάζει το αρχείο σου.  Σόρρυ που σε ξέχασα φιλαράκι αλλά αυτή την εβδομάδα δεν ήμουν και πολύ στα καλά μου. Στην είπα να την γράψεις έτσι για το τυπικό της υπόθεσης , νομικά δεν παίζει μεγάλο ρόλο απο την στιγμή που έχουν λάβει γνώση δηλαδή γνωρίζουν την περίπτωση σου. 



On Friday, 13 December 2013, 23:29, Tudor Girba <tudor at tudorgirba.com> wrote:
 
Hi Esteban,

Indeed, I pondered on the issue of extending Object with the deep* methods. In the end, I chose to extend it because traversals are not a cherry on top, they are rather essential for significant analysis.

From my point of view, Pharo has to become a platform in which understanding and manipulating objects is an essential concern. The reason is that in the long run, it is precisely assessment-related activities that account for the largest development costs. I detailed a bit this idea here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/choose-your-technology-for-the-long-run/


For this we need a powerful toolkit that makes crafting custom analyses cheap, and traversals has a prominent place in it.

Cheers,
Doru





On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo at gmail.com> wrote:

To avoid such kind of situations I would implement all the traversal methods as
>a) Traits or
>b) Class side methods of DeepTraversal (you choose the name) to which
>you'll have to pass the collection and the block.
>
>E.g. DeepTraversal deep: aCollection do: aBlock
>DeepTraversal flatten: aCollection thenDo: aBlock
>
>I, personally, don't like adding methods to Object unless it's
>unavoidable(*). And in those cases I choose to prefix them with
>something that is separate from the semantic, usually the
>package/framework prefix.
>
>Regards,
>
>(*)I did that for years and in the long term it hits you back.
>Esteban A. Maringolo
>
>
>2013/12/13 Chris Cunningham <cunningham.cb at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I was reading with interest the blog post on Traversal-enabled objects (
>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/traversal-enabled-pharo-objects ) when
>> I noticed the method #deepCollect: referenced.  Interestingly, I have a
>> method called #deepCollect: that is use (wtih related methods like #deepDo:
>> and #deepSelect:).  I suspect these uses may be compatible, with the
>> traveral versions being more generic.
>>
>> My set of #deep methods allow arbitrary flattening of collections.  The
>> #flatCollect: suite in Pharo today flattens objects 1 level; the
>> #deepCollect: flattens the collections as many levels deep as they are
>> nested.  I found this to be a really useful ability when I work with
>> PetitParser parsings, which tend give back massively nested Arrays by
>> default.
>>
>> If you are interested, it is published at:
>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~cbc/DeepCollection/ .
>>
>> -cbc
>
>


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