[Pharo-dev] Recent VM for Pharo 2 on Ubuntu 8.04

Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm at gmail.com
Wed Aug 28 09:08:31 EDT 2013


On Aug 28, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany at fit.cvut.cz> wrote:

> On 28/08/13 12:54, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>> for older systems, you are by your own. Is like that, yes.
>> 
>> We cannot maintain all VM for all possible configurations. Nobody can do that, not even canonical, less us. Ubuntu 8.04 is just too old.
>> 
>> Even JVM is not supported on Ubuntu 8.04: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
>> (latest is 10.04... which we support, or intent to at least)
>> Also... we are not oracle, we have more limited resources.
>> 
>> So , is not a workaround. Is the only reasonable solution: every software provider in earth supports a limited amount of system configurations, usually from some years ago, we provide at least the sources, instructions and support in the form of help/answering questions.
>> 
> 
> This is not the only instance of the problem.
> If I'm not much mistaken, same problem has been recently reported for Debian 7
> (Laszlo Zsolt KIss, 08/08/13 10:43). As Andres pointed out (08/08/13 14:40), it's libc is 17 months old. The proposed "solution" was the same - recompile on target system.

in that moment answer was: compile it yourself until we provide a working version (which we now provide). 
Ubuntu 8 is another problem :(
but do not get me wrong... is not that I do not would want to help... is just that I need to be realistic about what I can and what I don't :(


> 
> To make me clear, I have no problem if you say "Sorry, we don't support
> anything older than 12 months. Or 3 years. Or ...". I just don't think
> that asking people to recompile whenever there is glibc dependency problem is "real solution".
> 
> I'm very sorry for starting this pointless discussion.
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> we can offer support (but should be pretty straight forward, specially in linux systems).
>>>> 
>>>> I disagree with the solution proposed in (2), the cost of maintaining such approach would be exponential.
>>> 
>>> No, not really. There aren't many of those (at least, weren't in my case) and I found out that sometimes I could do better (faster) job :-)
>> 
>> you are invited to provide your working version, it would be cool for everybody :)
>> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I've done it for a different VM :-)
> 
> 
> Best, Jan
> 





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