[Pharo-project] Smalltalk as embedded platform/language?

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Wed Mar 7 13:42:25 EST 2012


On 7 March 2012 19:16, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras
> <vonbecmann at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> http://wingolog.org/archives/2011/10/19/the-user-in-the-loop
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>> andy wingo discuss embedded vs extensions and suggest that extension is
>> better
>> because you put the user on the loop with better tool support.
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> yes, but this is orthogonal.  If one has a useful library in Smalltalk and a
> client in a C/C++ language, then embeddability is one way to provide that
> library to C/C++.  Rolling one's own socket-based connection is another, but
> fraught with complications.  Basically embeddability does provide something
> useful in the right context (hence my employer wanting me to implement it).
>  That in no way indicates that dynamic language systems shouldn't continue
> to improve themselves.  And being able to embed might mean that occasionally
> a Smalltalk application gets much wider use than might otherwise be the
> case.
>
true.
i barely see reason why embeddability and extensibility should be antonogized.

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>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Lawson English <lenglish5 at cox.net> wrote:
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>>> On 3/7/12 2:36 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
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>>>> On 7 March 2012 08:36, Lawson English<lenglish5 at cox.net>  wrote:
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>>>>> [...]
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>>>>> Igor, you're familiar with f-script?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.fscript.org/
>>>>>
>>>> not really, why asking?
>>>> I know there's plenty of alternatives..
>>>> And how do you see f-script could help us?
>>>> It is objective-c (or Mac ) oriented. If you would want to use
>>>> different platform , then what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I was pointing to f-script as an example of an existing embedded
>>> smalltalk.
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>>> The biggest issue with an embedded Smalltalk, IMHO, isn't the VM but the
>>> libraries: what do you keep and why?
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
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> --
> best,
> Eliot
>



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Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.




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