[Pharo-project] MVP

Schwab,Wilhelm K bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
Sun Mar 4 18:47:37 EST 2012


Ben,

Ok, but I don't see it in either dirty experiments or the mc repository.  Am I missing a ConfigurationOfSpec?

Bill




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From: pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Benjamin [benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo at gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] MVP

I am kind of a middle of something right now, so my advice is really to use the configuration (moreover I have added a lot of packages)


Keep me in touch,

Ben

On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

Stef,

I skimmed the documentation and attempted to load Spec-BenjaminVanRyseghem.34.mcz<http://www.squeaksource.com/DirtyExperiments/Spec-BenjaminVanRyseghem.34.mcz> into 1.3, but got an error and backed off.

Any ideas?

Bill



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From: pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr> [pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse at inria.fr]
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if you want to have a look at what we are doing with benjamin you can have a look at
 Spec

Yesterday benjamin added inputField support and rewrote the changeSorter.

Stef



On Feb 5, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

> More:
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> proportional layouts need to let each view have a proportion (zero makes it fixed size) and splitters should be just another view that is added to a composite, following the horizontal/vertical nature of the layout manager.
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> From: pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr> [pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K [bschwab at anest.ufl.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] MVP
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> I'm still a little overwhelmed, but I see attention to layout; this has been a BIG stumbling block for me in my efforts to bring MVP to Pharo.  I recommend using nested composite view/presenter pairs for most layout.  First, it lends itself well to an eventual view editor, and second, can be surprisingly easy to code directly.
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> Each composite view has a layout manager.  Layouts include constrained table-like elements, but the real workhorses are proportional layouts, which can be set either horizontal or vertical.  By nesting them, very complicate behavior can be achieved.
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> There, said "nesting," and that has been where I have fallen into trouble.  Pharo/morphic layout works great for children of the top level, but after that, I can't get reliable results.
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> Sleep calls...
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> Bill
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> From: pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr> [pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K [bschwab at anest.ufl.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:36 PM
> To: pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr>
> Subject: [Pharo-project] MVP
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> Hello all,
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> I have been to busy to read today, but I like seeing any discussion of MVP.   I am **slowly** working on  a framework for it, but would  be glad to be beaten to it.
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> Default models are key; they must be replaceable, but (sub)triads should work "out of the box."  Models can include value holders, value adapters, converters, and contexts, depending on how they are wired.
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> I have something of a start on the adapters and converters, which I can try to package and make available.  If nothing else, they will have value in seeding discussion if not be directly usable.   More to come.
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> Bill


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