[Pharo-project] start thinking on summer release of Pharo 1.4

Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm at gmail.com
Sun Jun 17 06:57:50 EDT 2012

yes, Configurations Browser needs a little love too :P

On Jun 17, 2012, at 12:44 PM, phil at highoctane.be wrote:

> Who is his/her right mind would be able to make sense of this without
> a lot of preexposure? And who the hell are those people?
> And figuring out they need to right click, followed by a load
> configuration *and* stable version? Followed by a loooong wait. And if
> there is no internet, well, it would freeze for a significant while.
> That's the feedback I get from people I try to get into the flow. Lots
> of blank stares... along the lines of "What the heck are you doing?"
> Phil
> 2012/6/17 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm at gmail.com>:
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Ben Coman wrote:
>>> Is Nautilus under any consideration to be the default browser for your summer release at all, or are you firmly committed to OB?
>>> I need to know this to continue updating Pharo By Example for 1.4.
>> this is an interesting and important issue (much more than codenames, he).
>> I will extend my latest answer, using what I know (maybe Benjamin has another idea, and would be good to know it):
>> Nautilus is in development, there are some important functionalities that are not there yet, and some others that does not work properly. Refactors and Traits is the most important things I can think of now, but there are probably more.
>> Also, Nautilus relies in RPackage, which was not ready for 1.4 (but will be ready for 2.0). And some other packages (like OB itself) can be not-loadable after installing Nautilus.
>> To make all of this work in 1.4 can be a huge job (at least for RPackage, it is, I don't know for Nautilus). I know that RPackage cannot be backported without a lot of effort, but I don't know if Nautilus for 1.4 can be adapted to not use RPackage easily (which AFAIK, should be necessary to make it work propertly).
>> So, I will like your work (which is IMO terribly important) would take Nautilus. But I also think that loading it for default in 1.4 is probably too much.
>> Frankly,  I don't know what to do now :)
>> Esteban
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