[Pharo-project] [Esug-list] [ANN] SmallHarbour project

Mariano Martinez Peck marianopeck at gmail.com
Tue May 17 16:00:28 EDT 2011


On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, laurent laffont
<laurent.laffont at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:41 PM, laurent laffont <
>> laurent.laffont at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
>>> marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Laurent. You should take a look to GLASS applicance.
>>>> It is similar to what you want. You can take ideas from there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, good idea to have a look.
>>>
>>> I actually wonder which database support should come out of the box.
>>>
>>>
>> Do it directly on top of Glass and you already have a lot of things for
>> free, included that question ;)
>>
>
> I would like all the stack to be open source. Gemstone isn't ?
>
>
No. It is not. It is free with certain conditions, but not Open Source.


> Laurent.
>
>
>
>
>> You only need to implement the logistic for the app (kind of
>> seasidehosting).
>>
>
>>
>>> Laurent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> BTW, cool project and congrats!
>>>>
>>>> mariano
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 PM, laurent laffont <
>>>> laurent.laffont at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Davorin Rusevljan <
>>>>> davorin.rusevljan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you maybe considered to base it on the cloud foundry?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually we have several visions (nothing is final here, ideas welcome)
>>>>>
>>>>> 1/ SmallHarbour platform is meant to be a base for YOUR own hosting
>>>>> platform, like your own seaside hosting. So whether you put it on the cloud
>>>>> or on a real server should be a preference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually we don't have any experience with cloud, so help will be
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> We plan to have a virtual appliance based on virtual box / vmware /....
>>>>> for an easy setup. Amazon VMI image should be a good idea too (we have to
>>>>> learn).
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>> a / I work in an enterprise, I want to easily deploy Smalltalk web
>>>>> applications / tools on intranet for my co-workers and I don't want to spend
>>>>> time on setting up servers, apache, ...... So I could just get the
>>>>> appliance, start it and I'm ready to deploy several images.
>>>>>
>>>>> b / I want to set up a unique VPS (or cloud platform) to deploy several
>>>>> Smalltalk web apps / sites. I could just put my preferred Linux distro, then
>>>>>
>>>>> apt-get install smallharbour  / pacman -s smallharbour / ....
>>>>>
>>>>> /etc/rc.d/smallharbour start
>>>>>
>>>>> and let's go !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2/ SmallHarbour hosting service which be like SeasideHosting, but for
>>>>> commercial purposes. So you should create an account, pay a monthly / yearly
>>>>> fee related to the service you want, then either
>>>>>
>>>>> a/ upload your own image (like you do for SeasideHosting) if you're a
>>>>> power user
>>>>>
>>>>> b/ one-click deploy of pre-made image if you just want to setup a CMS,
>>>>> blog, write a new book, event planing, ... Pre-made images should be updated
>>>>> easily.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3/ People who need scalability, performance, deep customization don't
>>>>> need SmallHarbour :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Laurent
>>>>>
>>>>>  Davorin Rusevljan
>>>>>> http://www.cloud208.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 17, 2011 6:26 PM, "laurent laffont" <laurent.laffont at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Bernat Romagosa <
>>>>>> tibabenfortlapalanca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Just a ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that's why we haven't called it SeasideSomething.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We want the project to be open and support several web frameworks. We
>>>>>> will start with Seaside though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laurent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2011/5/17 Romain Verduci <contact at romain-verduci.com>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> We actually have www.seasideho...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> Mariano
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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>> --
>> Mariano
>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>>
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