[Pharo-project] Fwd: Multi-core Pharo?

Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse at inria.fr
Thu Dec 18 03:18:25 EST 2008


Klaus

if you want to have a clear answer from esug:
	- follow the process (cf the web page)
	- write a clear request
So far it was a little mail about moebius and not Hydra.
Stef

PS: ESUG has a board and we discuss and vote before taking decision.

On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> I'm sorry I'm just a frequent reader of the Pharo mailing list, so  
> here's my response by email. Feel free to forward it.
>
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:11:52 +0100, you wrote:
>
>> Hi Igor and Klaus,
>>
>> Having a description about Hydra will really help promoting your  
>> project.
>> Maybe we could continue what I started to write...
>
> The Hydra VM is usable as is and in production, serving heavy used  
> Croquet site, IIRC. Hydra has everything you need for the Multi-core  
> VM of Squeak:
>
> - launch and control multiple .images in native threads
> - control these threads from the Smalltalk language level
> - communicate beween .images through channels
> - any number of related/unrelated .images can be run
>
> What is not done yet (Igor would correct me) is making Hydra  
> available on Mac and Linux(en).
>
> In light of recent discussion with Stef about ESUG founding, I would  
> suggest you perhaps consider to make Hydra available for you Mac  
> users.
>
> Cheers,
> Klaus
>
> P.S. Alex the "rest" of the discussion you recalled above (the paper  
> you suggested) is about a very particular use of Hydra technology,  
> formost for and by enthusiastic VM engineers to be "the first" who  
> get it going. Hydra can do and does well without all that (without  
> the cloning of object subgraphs "baby Hydras" from the  
> running .image): just save an .image file and then start it up in  
> Hydra.
>
>> Alexandre
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2008, at 09:52, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Has anyone looked at the Qwac Hydra stuff?
>>>
>>> http://www.qwaq.com/HydraVM/
>>>
>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-February/125719.html
>>>
>>> There was quite a lot of discussion on squeak-dev ast February, but
>>> not much since then.
>>>
>>> I would really love to see a multi-core Pharo.  If someone has an  
>>> idea
>>> how this could be done, I would be interested to learn more.  I  
>>> think
>>> getting Pharo to exploit multi-cores could be a big selling point in
>>> the future ...
>>>
>>> - on
>>>
>>>
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